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NEW$ & VIEW$ (10 SEPTEMBER 2015): Does China Matter?

Fed Up?
  • IMF says please don’t.
  • World Bank says please don’t.
  • China says don’t hurt world demand.
  • Larry Summers says they should not.
  • Futures market says they won’t . Sleepy smile

Then this:

Emerging markets urge Fed to lift rates Confused smile

Emerging market central bankers have urged the US Federal Reserve to raise rates sooner rather later in order to end the uncertainty over Fed policy that has pummeled stock markets and currencies in recent weeks.

“We think US monetary policymakers have got confused about what to do. The uncertainty has created the turmoil,” said Mirza Adityaswara, senior deputy governor at Indonesia’s central bank.

“The situation will recover the sooner the Fed makes a decision and then gives expectation to the market that they [will] increase [rates] one or two times and then stop.”

Fed Wavers on September Rate Rise Federal Reserve officials aren’t near an agreement to begin raising short-term interest rates heading into a crucial week of private discussions before their Sept. 16-17 policy meeting, according to their recent comments.

Wednesday marked the beginning of the Fed’s self-imposed blackout, the period when officials stop communicating with the public ahead of a policy meeting and begin a week of internal deliberations and staff briefings.

Though officials appear to remain on track to raise rates this year—after September, there are Fed meetings in October and December—their recent remarks in interviews and elsewhere showed divisions and uncertaintythat could restrain them from moving on rates as soon as next week. (…)

The Fed’s decision isn’t a binary one—to act or not to act. Before every policy meeting Fed staff economists present officials with a variety of choices, typically three, including middle-ground options that navigate between Fed “hawks” who lean away from low interest-rate policies and “doves” who support easy money.

A middle-ground choice now could involve signaling more strongly the Fed’s intent to raise rates this year once officials become comfortable recent market moves aren’t a sign of deeper problems in the global economy. (…)

U.S. JOLTS: Job Openings Rate Gains, While Hiring Slows

The job openings rate rose to 3.9% during July, a new high, from 3.6% in June and 3.3% a year ago. The hires rate, however, dropped back to 3.5% from June’s 3.7% and 3.6% in July 2014.

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The actual number of job openings rose 21.7% y/y to 5.753 million. As seen in the rates, the apparent strength in job openings was not matched by firms’ ability to fill positions, as hiring fell 3.8% from June to July, when it numbered 4.983 million, the lowest since August 2014 and 0.4% below a year ago. Thus, the larger number of openings partly reflects the reduced amount of hiring.

The private-sector job openings rate also rose, reaching 4.2% in July from 3.9% in June. The private sector hires rate fell to 3.9% in July from June’s 4.0%, and most sectors had declines.

The number of private sector hires fell back by 4.1% in July from June and was 1.4% below July 2014. Year-to-year comparisons show the largest drops in construction, where hiring fell 22.1%, and in professional and business services, down 5.2%. Leisure and hospitality, by contrast, saw a 7.2% y/y gain, and trade, transportation and utilities had a 2.5% y/y increase. Hiring in manufacturing was nearly steady with a 0.4% rise and that in education and health a 0.2% uptick. Government hiring was up 15.1%.

The total job separations rate fell back to 3.3% in July from 3.5% and the actual number of separations was up a mere 0.1% y/y. The private sector separations rate also edged down, to 3.7% from 3.8% and the government sector’s rate was steady at 1.4%. The layoff & discharge rate fell to 1.1% from June’s 1.3%. The rate in the private sector was 1.3%, down from 1.4%; its peak during the recession was 2.3%. The rate in government was 0.4% for a third consecutive month.

The last times we were at this level of unqualified applicants, it was the cyclical peak…

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U.S. BACK-TO-SCHOOL SALES SEEM SLOW

Americans’ self-reported daily spending averaged $89 in August, similar to the $90 to $91 averages Gallup has found each month since April. The latest figure is the lowest August reading since 2012. (Gallup)

Monthly Averages of Reported Amount Americans Spent

Back-to-school sales are often a harbinger for Christmas sales…

DOES CHINA MATTER?

JP Morgan Asset Management:

The chart below shows economic and market data growing at just 2% or so, both in the developed and developing world. This is pretty tepid after 6 years of global monetary and fiscal stimulus. In a 2% growth world, markets are vulnerable to corrections, and have difficulty sustaining lofty valuations. All things considered, while “emerging markets contagion” is the proximate cause of this correction, the low rate of developed market economic and corporate revenue growth is the more telling one.

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Why is the China slowdown important?

  • As a share of world GDP, China is more than twice as large as Asia ex-Japan in 1997, and more than twice as large as Peripheral Europe in 2011
  • The emerging world has been converging to China since 2000. There’s an 80%+ correlation between China and Asia ex-China manufacturing surveys, and J.P. Morgan Securities estimates an almost 1:1 pass-through from Chinese weakness to the rest of the EM world
  • China’s commodity demand is falling, and the long lead times needed to bring industrial metals and energy into production can extend the downsides of commodity super-cycles to 10-20 years
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CHINA FACTS

Sales of passenger cars slipped 3.4% to 1.42 million vehicles last month, following a 6.6% decline in July and a 3.4% fall in June. Combined sales of passenger and commercial vehicles fell 3% in August to about 1.66 million vehicles, the government-backed China Association of Automobile Manufacturers said Thursday. (…)

Most car makers reported weak China sales for August. GM’s sales were down 4.8% from a year earlier, Ford’s were off 3.3% and Nissan’s fell 5.5%. (…)

Advisory firm AlixPartners said in a report Wednesday that it expects low single-digit percentage growth to be the “new normal” for China’s car market, adding that total annual sales volume this year may show its first contraction since 2008. The report projected Chinese auto sales to grow 4.1% annually through 2018, then slow to 2.9% for the next five years. (…)

SAIC General Motors—a joint venture between General Motors Co. and SAIC Motor—built 21% fewer cars in August than it had a year earlier, according to a filing by the Chinese company to the local exchange. At SAIC Volkswagen, the German car maker’s joint venture with SAIC, production was down 24%. At Ford Motor Co.’s car-making joint venture, it was down.

GM, VW and Ford all said they are adjusting production to balance supply and demand, but they continue to believe that the market will grow. (…)

Despite the cut in production, dealers still struggle with high inventories. A recent survey of China’s more than 20,000 dealers by the China Automobile Dealers Association, a government-backed trade group, showed that at the end of July, dealers on average had inventories equal to 1.65 months’ sales, virtually unchanged from 1.68 months in June. In China, analysts regard 1.5 months of sales on lots as the “alert level” at which dealers should begin to be concerned about high inventory.

  • Evercore ISI survey of China sales remains weak.
  • China Manpower Employment survey keeps falling and is almost at its 2009 low. The chart below is up to June. Latest tally is 5%.

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And if you believe Li Keqiang saying that domestic demand and the Services economy will counteract weak manufacturing, check these charts out:

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And the larger the employers, the weaker employment is:

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Stable employment growth is crucial for China’s and the Party’s stability.

DESPITE all the ups and downs in China’s economy over the past decade, its official unemployment rate has remained incredibly stable. Incredible in the sense of “impossible to believe”. The registered urban jobless rate is just 4.1% now. This would seem to point to economic vigour, but the problem is that it has sat at that precise level, without moving, since late 2010. And it has stayed within an absurdly narrow range of 4.0-4.3% since 2002, even at the depths of the global financial crisis. (The Economist)

Two days ago:

Li said the creation of over 7 million new urban jobs and keeping unemployment rate at 5.1 percent in the first half of this year showed China’s economy was on “reasonable track”.

So, it’s not 4.1% but more like 5.1%. But is it?

China’s economy contracted at the steepest rate for six-and-a-half years in August, according to survey data. The Caixin China Composite PMI (which covers both manufacturing and services), compiled by Markit, indicated the largest drop in output since the height of the global financial crisis in February 2009. The ‘all sector’ output index slipped to 48.8 from 50.2 in July.The slowest growth of service sector business activity for just over a year was accompanied by the steepest drop in manufacturing output since November 2011. Factory output has now fallen for four successive months due to a combination of weak domestic demand and deteriorating exports. Goods export orders fell in August at one of the steepest rates seen over the past three years.

The downturn continued to feed through to the labour market, with employment across the two sectors declining at a rate not seen since January 2009. Increased job shedding in manufacturing was joined by a near-stagnation of staffing levels in the services economy.

Further weakness of production and employment trends look likely in September, as overall inflows of new orders fell in August for the first time since April of last year, led by an increasingly marked downturn in manufacturing orders.

See how Markit’s independent PMI surveys show that employment has been in contraction most of the time since 2012. That’s 4 years!

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In fact, Markit’s data suggest that the Chinese economy is growing at a 4.0-4.5% annualized rate lately, far from the 7% “forecast”.

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Pork pushes China CPI to 12-month high Deflation remains a threat, with factory prices still in decline

Consumer prices rose at an annual pace of 2 per cent in August, the fastest in 12 months and up from 1.6 per cent in July. (…)

But pork and vegetable prices contributed 0.6 and 0.4 percentage points, respectively, to the headline figure, suggesting that underlying inflation remains far below the government’s full-year target of 3 per cent. Wholesale prices for industrial goods fell for the 42nd consecutive month in August, dropping 5.9 per cent, faster than the 5.4 per cent decline in July. Pork prices rose 20 per cent from a year earlier.

Food prices in biggest decline since 2008 UN’s food index impacted by bumper crops and commodity rout

The FAO’s monthly food index in August fell 5.2 per cent from the month before, the steepest monthly drop since December 2008. The index is now at its lowest level since April 2009. (…)

A separate FAO report on supply, demand and inventories of grains and cereals showed that the pressure on prices would likely continue.

The ratio of wheat inventories to consumption is forecast to rise to a four-year high of 28.3 per cent from 27.9 per cent the year before thanks to good harvests and lower demand from importing countries.

Wheat production is expected at 728m tonnes, falling slightly from the year before. (…)

Global inventories of coarse grains, which include corn and barley, are forecast to reach an all-time high of almost 272m tonnes in 2016. The EU is importing more than expected levels of corn after weather-related damage, but China is expected to import less corn, barley and sorghum while Iran and Mexico are also likely cut their coarse grain purchases. (…)

The FAO said its cereal price index fell 7 per cent in August from the month before, while vegetable oils recorded a 8.6 per cent drop, to the lowest level since March 2009 due to lower import demand by India and China.

Weak demand from China and north Africa depressed dairy prices while the Brazilian real depreciation led to accelerated selling by the country’s farmers.

Citigroup Sees U.S. Oil Output Losing 500,000 Barrels a Day A funding squeeze threatens to cut U.S. oil output by as much as half a million barrels a day by the end of the year, with shale producers among the worst affected, Citigroup Inc. said.

NEW$ & VIEW$ (9 SEPTEMBER 2015): China Rules! Fed Up! Quant Risks.

Global Stocks Jump on Stimulus Hopes Global stocks rise, led by a 7.7% rise in Japan’s Nikkei, following signs that China would do more to stimulate its slowing economy.

(…) But investor sentiment improved Wednesday following an announcement from China’s finance ministry on Tuesday evening that the country would roll out a “more forceful” fiscal policy to boost its economy. (…)

China’s Ministry of Finance said in a statement Tuesday evening that it would allocate more funds to support some infrastructure projects and implement tax cuts for small businesses. It also said it would accelerate the approval process for duty-free stores to boost construction.

In a message read out at a Bank of America Merrill Lynch event in Tokyo, Abe said that he would lower the effective corporate tax rate by at least 3.3 percentage points “next year” and will “aim to go beyond that if possible.”

High five Abe spokesman Kenko Sone said that Abe’s comments signaled no change in policy, and the message may not have been clearly expressed. Some of the reduction that Abe referred to has already been implemented, and the rate will fall to 31.33 percent in the fiscal year starting April 2016 from 34.62 percent in fiscal 2014, according to the Ministry of Finance website.

Citigroup Sees 55% Risk of a Global Recession Made in China Citigroup Inc. is sounding the alarm bells for the world economy.

In an analysis published late on Tuesday, the New York-based bank’s chief economist,Willem Buiter, said there is a 55 percent chance of some form of global recession in the next couple of years, most likely one of moderate depth and length. (…)

“The world appears to be at material and rising risk of entering a recession, led by EMs and in particular by China,” wrote Buiter, a former U.K. policy maker.

Among reasons for worry is his view that in reality China is already growing closer to 4 percent than the government’s goal of about 7 percent targeted for this year. A shallow recession would likely occur if expansion slowed to 2.5 percent in the middle of next year and stayed there, he said.

Other emerging markets such as Brazil, South Africa and Russia are already in trouble while developed economies are still lackluster. Commodity prices, trade and inflation remain sluggish and corporate earnings are slowing. (…)

As for the advanced economies, Buiter said China’s woes could infect them via declines in trade given it accounted for 14.3 percent of global commerce in 2013. China unloading some of its $6 trillion of foreign assets such as U.S. Treasuries could also roil international financial markets, while the dollar could surge as investors seek a safe haven. (…)

Sarcastic smile Buiter is a frequent outlier. Counterparts at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. are playing down the risk posed by China to rich economies, while those at Societe Generale SA said this week that they envisage just a 10 percent chance of a new global recession with cheap oil providing a buffer against the emerging market weakness. In July 2012, Citigroup was warning of a 90 percent chance Greece would leave the euro only to be proved wrong. (…)

Having it all ways:

China Slowdown Could End Up Being Good for U.S. Economists say it would keep a lid on consumer prices and possibly give a boost to U.S. service industry exporters

On the economic side, a China slowdown would keep a lid on consumer prices as weak demand in China would depress the price of commodities such as copper, oil and steel used in cars, electronics and other consumer favorites, economists say.

And if China presses hard to remake its economy to focus on its service industry, as Chinese reformers have long urged, that would give a boost to U.S. companies, like software and entertainment firms if China gives them space to operate, and would cut overproduction in China’s industrial sectors.

Another plus: big Chinese firms, say economists, would be likely to invest more in the U.S. as returns on investment shrink in China and expand in the U.S. Similarly, some of China’s brightest talent, who are already educated in the U.S., might choose to stay abroad rather than return home if economic prospects in China fade. (…)

CHINA FACTS
  • China electricity consumption was reported up 2.5% YoY in August following –2.0% in July. This was the fastest pace so far this year!
  • New home sales in the 30 largest cities are up 35% YoY.

Alibaba Braces for Sales Slowdown as China Growth FaltersAlibaba Group Holding Ltd. expects the value of its e-commerce transactions to be lower than previously thought in the quarter ending in September due to slower consumer spending. (…) At a conference Tuesday in New York, the e-commerce giant’s head of investor relations,Jane Penner, said Alibaba is “observing some negative impact to the magnitude of the spending” by Chinese consumers on their online platforms.

The company believes its total transaction value, a closely watched measurement called gross merchandise value, will be “mid-single-digits lower than our initial expectations,” she said. “We do think this will have an impact on the September quarter.” (…)

Ms. Penner said the company doesn’t see the economic slowdown directly hitting Chinese pocketbooks so far, citing wage growth and other indicators.

“We think this is more due to psychology than an ability to spend,” Ms. Penner said. “We’re still actually seeing high engagement by buyers on our platforms.” (…)

Chinese Internet portal SinaCorp.’s executives said during the quarterly earnings announcement last month that an 8% decline in advertising revenue from the previous year was due to macroeconomic factors, as brands tightened spending on advertising, particularly in autos amid flat and declining passenger car sales. (…)

  • From CEBM China surveys:

Roughly half of CEBM’s steel sector survey respondents saw sales fall below expectations in August. Most respondents attributed weak sales to insufficient real
demand, although some respondents did report that temporary factors (i.e., production shutdowns tied to the Sept. 3rd Military Parade in Beijing and the Tianjin Warehouse Explosion) had an influence on the sales environment. In July, cement sales saw a meaningful rebound boosted by infrastructure projects. August survey feedback, however, indicates that cement sales lost momentum.

On the external demand front, survey feedback indicated a continued deterioration in export activity. Container freight shipping was weak, registering a decline in M/M and Y/Y growth.

CEBM’s property developer and agent surveys show that real estate sales fell below expectations in August. The correction in sales was larger-than-anticipated. 

CEBM’s banking survey indicates the scale of loan issuance likely contracted on an M/M basis.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang Says China Doesn’t Want a Currency War

China is being unfairly criticized for its management of the currency and doesn’t want to use yuan depreciation to boost exports, Li said Wednesday at the World Economic Forum’s “Summer Davos” meeting in Dalian, China. He said the currency, also known as the renminbi, will be kept at a reasonable, equilibrium level, and that competitive devaluations wouldn’t benefit the country.

Growth is stabilizing and employment data show that the world’s second-largest economy is operating in a reasonable range, Li said. As long as there’s sufficient employment, incomes growing in tandem with economic output, and an improving environment, China can accept such growth as it had in the first half of the year, he said. (…)

Li said the creation of over 7 million new urban jobs and keeping unemployment rate at 5.1 percent in the first half of this year showed China’s economy was on “reasonable track”. (…)

Li said the structure of the economy is trending in a positive direction as the government promotes new drivers of growth and continues with reform and restructuring efforts. He said China can maintain mid- to high-speed growth. (…)

The premier said China has successfully prevented the emergence of systemic risks, and that measures taken in July amid the stock market plunge prevented such risks from spreading.

Government debt risks are controllable and the total amount is at a relatively low level, with borrowing by the central government equivalent to about 20 percent of gross domestic product, Li said.

U.S. Consumers Take On More Debt

Outstanding consumer credit, a reflection of nonmortgage debt, rose $19.1 billion or at a 6.7% annual rate in July, the Federal Reserve said Tuesday.

Revolving credit, mostly credit cards, rose at a 5.7% annual rate. In June it climbed at an annual rate of 10%.

Nonrevolving credit, made up largely of auto and student loans, increased at a 7% annual rate, compared with 9.4% in June. (Charts from Haver Analytics.

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Richard Fisher: The Fed must act soon on rates

The former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas readies markets for lift-off in this FT op-ed.

The Fed has declared that it wants prices, as measured by the personal consumption expenditure deflator, to rise by 2 per cent a year. The headline inflation rate is running well below that. Should the Fed, then, keep interest rates close to zero? No. Headline inflation is being held down by the big fall in energy and crop prices that began in the second half of 2014. Once these prices stabilise, overall headline inflation is likely to rise again.

Policymakers should focus on the direction of price changes over the medium term. (…)

Moving towards lift off from the zero bound in a timely, anticipatory way would also buttress faith that the Fed will not risk setting back economic growth. Every time the Fed has waited for full employment to be achieved before starting to tighten policy, it has ended up having to tighten so much that it has driven the economy into recession. (…)

If the Fed waits for full employment and then has to throttle back sharply, there will be a nasty shock. The upcoming Fed meetings present a timely opportunity to start slowing down the engines, however slightly, so as to maintain the confidence of markets, businesses and consumers alike.

Mexico to slash spending by $5.8bn â€˜Considerable challenge’ says finance chief as he presents budget

A 2016 budget package, which he submitted to Congress, reduces spending by 1.15 per cent of gross domestic product compared with the 2015 package — a total of 221bn pesos ($13bn). Mr Videgaray said that more than half of the budgetary belt-tightening had already happened — amid falling oil prices, Mexico’s main budgetary problem, the government announced a pre-emptive 124bn peso austerity drive in January.

However, Mexico still needs to find 97bn pesos of cuts, which Mr Videgaray told reporters represented a “considerable challenge”.

He acknowledged that despite a growing and stable economy, in which inflation is at an all-time low, jobs are being created and unemployment is down, Mexicans cannot shake off a sense of crisis.

“It is clear that Mexicans are very worried by falling oil prices, a rise in the dollar compared with the peso, uncertainty in financial markets. This is a reality,” he said. That was why the budget’s main goal was “to preserve stability and protect Mexican pocketbooks”.

Mr Videgaray said the budget estimated 2016 growth at 2.6 per cent to 3.6 per cent, although that could change depending on how the international economy performs.

Mexico is also aiming for a 2016 average exchange rate of 15.9 pesos per dollar, a recovery compared with the current level of around 16.8.

It expects oil production of 2.247m barrels per day, significantly lower than the 2015 budgeted production of 2.4m, and is basing its calculations on an expected price for Mexico’s crude oil mix of $50 per barrel. (…)

The budget expects to cut the primary deficit to 0.5 per cent of GDP in 2016 compared with the 1.3 per cent estimated for 2015.

MIT Quant Guru Andrew Lo on Market’s Meltdown: ‘August Sucks’

Andrew Lo has spent a lot of time peering into Wall Street’s various black boxes and “modeling the endogenous risk among hedge fund strategies.” The finance professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Sloan School of Management and chairman ofAlphaSimplex Group LLC shared his thoughts on Friday about the recent spate of volatility in the stock market and what role strategies such as risk parity, trend-following commodity trading advisers and volatility targeting may have played.

Question: What does this volatility look like to you? Is this another quant meltdown?

Lo: I’m not sure I’d characterize it as just a quant meltdown. I think that makes it a little bit too cut and dried. Probably there are a number of different factors, including algorithmic trading, that plays into it. We have a number of different forces that are all coming to a head. And because of the automation of markets and the electronification of trading, we’re seeing much choppier markets than we otherwise would have five or 10 years ago. But it’s many forces operating at different time scales, all coming to a head.

Question: Is systematic trading exaggerating the moves?

Lo: I think it’s doing two things. One it can be exaggerating the moves if it lines up with what the market wants to do. So if the market is looking to sell because of an impending recession, then I think we’re going to see a lot of the algorithmic trading going in the same direction. And if the time horizon matches, you will see that kind of cascade effect. At the same time, I think algorithmic trading can play the opposite role. They can dampen some of the market swings if they’re going opposite to the general trend… The one thing that is true, though, is that algorithmic trading is speeding up the reaction times of these participants, so that’s the choppiness of the market. Everybody can move to the left side of the boat and the right side of the boat now within minutes as opposed to hours or days.

Question: When you talk about exaggerating the effect, is that mostly CTAs and momentum players or is it not that simple?

Lo: I think that over the course of the last few weeks, that’s actually a pretty decent bet: That there are trend followers that are unwinding because of some underperformance and concerns about the change in direction of the market. But, for example, what happened in August 2007 was equity market neutral strategies that unwound. So I think it really varies depending on the nature of the strategies that are getting hit and the money going into and out of those strategies, and how that’s affecting market dynamics.

Question: A lot of focus has fallen on risk parity strategies. The notion that, as volatility picked up, there was a lot of deleveraging going on, especially with futures and ETFs. Does that make sense to you from what we’ve seen?

Lo: Well, it certainly looks that way. Part of the challenge of risk parity is that it ignores anything about expected returns. The idea behind risk parity is not a bad one, which is to focus on risk and to manage your portfolio so as to try to stabilize that risk. But the problem with equalizing it across all asset classes or investments is that not all investments are created equal at all points in time. So there are certain strategies that end up doing worse than others during periods of times. And if you end up equalizing your volatility across those strategies, you might end up getting hit pretty hard as some of the equity risk parity strategies got hit over the course of the last few weeks.

Question: Is risk parity looking like a crowded trade?

Lo: I think there’s definitely a case in point of the idea of alpha becoming beta. The idea that once you start popularizing a particular investment approach, and it becomes so popular, that in and of itself creates these kinds of shock waves. So for example if the strategy itself underperforms, now we have a larger number of investors that are going to be unwinding that strategy and that will create a kind of cascade effect where the strategy will underperform even more as people start to take money out of the strategy. There are a number of examples. Risk parity, of course, is the most recent. But before that trend following, before that value investing, growth investing, earnings surprise, earnings momentum, any kind of a strategy can become a crowded trade. And when it does you have to just make sure that the risk premium associated with that trade is commensurate with the potential risks of getting hit with these unwinds.

Question: Are volatility targeting strategies part of the story? Have they become so popular that they’re exaggerating the moves?

Lo: Not only are they exaggerating the moves, but I think they are creating volatility of volatility. So it’s making the market quite a bit more complicated and the dynamics now are much more different and much more difficult to manage if you’re not aware of how these dynamics play out.

Question: What about when you get a big rebound? What do you suppose that is? Is that actually value-type of investors seeing the drops and coming in, or is it just another systematic trading function?

Lo: These rebounds are a confluence of a number of phenomena. One, you’re seeing that once selling pressure declines, investors will naturally become more optimistic and will come back into the market. That’s a common phenomenon. But I think that a rather newer phenomenon is the fact that these algorithms, because they operate at such high frequencies, when the price moves beyond a certain threshold, the algorithms will kick around and flip and go the other way. It’s happening at a rate that’s faster than it’s been anytime in the past because we haven’t had the technology to be able to do that.

And finally what we’re seeing is expectations shifting more rapidly because unlike five or 10 years ago we now have very big players in the financial markets, actively trying to move markets. In particular, I’m thinking about central banks and governments that are trying to manage economies by engaging in quantitative easing or other kinds of financial market transactions. When you have a small number of very big players that are going to be trying to move markets for political or long-term economic reasons, it becomes much, much harder to understand what’s happening. So people are all sort of trigger happy when small pieces of information hit the market, they tend to start moving money very quickly and in large size.

Question: Is that type government intervention something that algos can’t anticipate? Is that sort of an Achilles heel of algo strategies?

Lo: Absolutely. That event risk is something most algorithmic trading strategies really can’t manage yet. I say “yet” because in five or 10 years maybe natural language processing and artificial intelligence will have allowed them to read the news, interpret it and make judgments the way George Soros or Warren Buffett can. But I think we’re still a few years away from that

Question: Are a lot of momentum strategies able to turn on a dime that quickly? We’ll see this intraday drop of several hundred points, then it turns on a dime…

Lo: I think that it’s hard for momentum strategies to be able to move that quickly. In fact, some of the strategies that do move that quickly end up getting whipsawed. The real challenge in operating in these markets is that risk management would have you cut risk in the face of losses. The problem is that if you cut risk too quickly and by too much, you may end up missing out on the rebound, in which case you’ve locked in your losses and you might be getting back in the market exactly at the worst time. So you’re getting hit on both ends. What this atmosphere creates is a much more complicated challenge to risk managers to figure out what is the right frequency with which they need to cut risk and put it back. And I think everybody is trying to figure out what that optimal frequency is. But until we get a sense of who’s involved in the markets and driving these frequencies, it’s going to be anybody’s guess. And as a result a lot of people are going to be surprised over the next few weeks and months.